In Conversation with... John Arden

In late 2009 I paid a visit to the Galway home of Man Booker Prize runner-up, John Arden. Less than three years before his sad passing, he was good enough to spare some time to speak with me about what turned our to be his last collection of stories Gallows - Tales of Suspicion and Obsession.  

There’s a man with a Palestinian flag on Shop Street. He’s 60 if he’s a day and when the rain falls on the happy shoppers of Galway, he usually gets wet. There are men and women who spend each weekend at Shannon Airport, counting airplanes as they traffic in and out and engage in uneasy staring-matches with guards through iron fences.
They are people who are placed, or place themselves, on the edge of what most people see as ‘normal’ society. People who sooner or later will pay some price for that placement.
For the last four decades, John Arden has lived in relative obscurity on Ireland’s west coast. After exploding onto the literary scene in the late 1950s, Arden was quickly hailed as one of the visionary playwrights of that era and was even christened Britain’s Brecht.
But all truths must eventually out and Arden’s unwillingness to keep quiet about his opposition to the British military machine and their presence in Ireland soon brought about a number of high profile falling-outs with the British theatre establishment. And that, as they say, was that.
Now, as he prepares to turn 80, he is about to release his most substantial collection of work in years. Set in Galway, London and Yorkshire, Gallows is a  collection of short stories that attempt to lift the carpet of polite society and peer at the goings-on in the underbelly of life.
“It’s not deliberate, you know. It’s just what happens when you write short stories over a period of years. The themes really are subconscious. It’s only after [the story] is written that I realise what the underlying theme might be,” he says.
“It think it reflects in some ways how I have been feeling over the last number of years. I call the book Tales of Suspicion and Obsession and we do live a society that is full of that. Everybody is complaining about somebody else - very often there is good reason. Nobody trusts the authorities any longer. The government, such as it is, is derided on all sides and not believed. How many people actually believe what a cabinet minister says anymore? They used to believe them, you know. These type of themes just seem to get into my writing, whether I want them to or not.”
After finding much of his early success as a playwright - both for stage and radio - Arden forced his way back into mainstream success with his 1982 novel, Silence Among the Weapons, which was shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize.
His latest work, a collection of short stories, represents another shift in medium but perhaps not a change in style or method.
“It’s an interesting idea because there are two very different schools of thought about writing short stories. A lot of people think about short stories as one single episode or event - they are not very concerned about plot, they are much more interested in working on the character. They are very often mood pieces,” he continues.
“My approach is much different. A few years ago, I had a job with the BBC, adapting a series of short stories by Wilkie Collins for the radio. He called his short stories ‘little novels’ and that is what they were - they had a beginning, a middle and an end. That, in a way, is what I have tried to do. They are short but they are structurally not unlike a novel. There are many characters and a lot of action but the thing is not to fuss and bother too much about the trappings of description and things like that.”
Gallows is a black comedy, especially black considering Arden’s constant exploration of the strife for social justice and his admission that he just doesn’t do happy endings.
“It’s not so much that I don’t do happy endings; it’s more that I’m just not bothered by them. If a happy ending crops up, then I would write it but most of the stories in the book don’t have a defined ending. When I say I have given the story a beginning, a middle and an end, I mean I have given it an end to that plot. But I don’t end the stories by giving an assurance to the reader that everything is going to be okay, that everyone who has been in trouble in the story isn’t going to be in trouble anymore. That just doesn’t happen in life, does it?,” he says.
“In life, people have difficulties and, after a while, if they are lucky, they surmount them. Then they carry on for a while and they have more difficulties which crop up from a different ending. This doesn’t mean that they can’t be positive stories - I don’t make a point of going for the miserable ending either. Quite a lot of the stories end on a question mark - what will they do next?
“Interestingly, for this book I have been drawing pictures. Having finished the stories, I started painting all these little pictures to illustrate them. The painting is a very different creative exercise. I hadn’t done it in ages; it was just something I found myself doing over the last 18 months and I very much enjoyed it.
“But my writing process hasn’t changed much over the years. When I’m writing, I’m writing and it’s the same process that I’ve always done. I try to do a little bit every day and I still enjoy it.”
This interview was first published in The Clare People Newspaper in October of 2009.

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